Lynyrd Skynyrd: 8/10 14. Earlier this month, he added another distinction to his rsum as he was inducted into the Army ROTC Hall of Fame as part of the 24-member Class of 2021.. Care to post it here? -the Beastie Boys Come on guys, let's put MJ in Level 5. Most weridest inductee: Jim Morrison, John Lennon, Sly Stone, Prince, and Michael Jackson. Yeah, the Pyramid's bias toward 60s musicians is palpable. First, I would tack on some lesser known blues and R&B singers like Blind Lemon Jefferson, W.C. I am williams by name. 150. Santana: 8/10 So, since I've had some free time, I took it upon myself to update the original Hall of Fame Pyramid and figured I'd share. Heart: 1 2020 Posted by Follower on Wednesday, 08/22/2018 @ 19:01pm. The Cure are my fave band and I think they have been highly influential on the new generation, they are celebrating their 40th anniversary as a band and still playing live yearly (suck on that, Rolling Stones), and I'm pretty happy with them as a 2. Did the management of this establishment put you up to this? "Special Occasion - Jim Gilstrap. All my earlier kidding aside, here's how I'd fix the pyramid: Here is Simmons' explanation of the idea . Does ninety-six players sound like a good number? In 2010, Bill Simmons published The Book of Basketballs paperback edition in which he updated his Hall of Fame Pyramid, a list of the top 96 greatest mens basketball players. Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 10.31.13 @ 09:54am, Posted by Enigmaticus on Wednesday, 10/22/2014 @ 09:54am, I am shocked that Enig would think that "In my honest opinion, Rush should also be placed a lot higher. Posted by Nick Simmons just completed his BOB 2.0 podcast, and during numerous episodes he will list the specific new Pyramid rankings of 5-10 guys in a row, but I'm curious if anyone has heard all the podcasts & has the new order written down? Hey, Zach, have you looked at the comment that I posted? Just asking for clarification. Posted by Kyle on Wednesday, 07/26/2017 @ 18:50pm. The Pyramid has been updated through the class of 2021. In addition, the Miracles have been regarded as the most covered act in Motown's roster and have influenced numerous artists worldwide in the last 50 years. Bill Cathcart WTOC TV 2014 Please if you are tired of poverty and you want to change your status or you are already weathy and you need protection of life,wealth,properties and family member please come and join the help iluminati now and get what you need. 1992 target="_blank" title="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmoY83GCEAAeR7h.jpg:medium[/img]">https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmoY83GCEAAeR7h.jpg:medium[/img], Posted by FRL on Friday, 05/2/2014 @ 08:43am. Most quiet inductee? N.W.A: Level 2 (tough call, but Public Enemy is at the lowest part of 3, and they're about even, though PE had longer success) I think that eventually Rush will be recognized, in the future, as a 5th tier band. Foreword by Malcom Gladwell "The work of a true fan . 1988 14. Aerosmith: 9/10 On David Bowie, I agree with you on his importance in rock and roll but, I just hate it when people glorify him as the father of glam rock when T. Rex and The New York Dolls started the movement. I'd prefer Nina on Level 2, but I'd ultimately have no problem putting all the artists on Level 1. We correct for the passage of time in a principled way, so we can fairly compare the significance of historical figures of different eras." ARE YOU KIDDING ME ? 223. One of the more underappreciated recent stars in the NBA. Ray [although I haven't seeen it yet] Should have been first ballot: Genesis, Black Sabbath, Queen. Posted by Bill G on Wednesday, 05/8/2019 @ 06:56am. Nina Simone (Level 2) Nina Simone 220. T.Rex-Level 3 The Cars I can agree that, despite the deep and wide influence he had on many Rock stars, that Ray Charles himself was never marketed as or claimed to be a Rock and Roll performer. *******Here's the REAL KICKER !! 199. Parker was really, really good for a long time. The ones who should move up? And I agree on John Lennon (or any Beatle) as a solo artist. I would also put Blue Cheer, Steppenwolf, Mountain, and Iron Butterfly on the pyramid too. Cliff Hagan. Please keep comments relevant to the topic. Little Willie John: 6/10 4. Paul McCartney: 8/10 Simmons believes that Nolan Ryan was a Tier 4 Baseball HoFer, while acknowledging that several people wouldn't put Nolan Ryan in the Hall at all. Whitney Houston De Bravo, Little Willie G., Oran "Juice" Jones. LEVEL 4 ? The Spinners Can't answer in seven. Aretha Franklin: 10/10 Ritchie Valens: 7/10 6/10 = Decent Artists Dire Straits - 1 141. James Taylor: 8/10 Wilson Pickett: 9/10 Then, on Feb. 24, 2019, he revised Curry to be top 20. Gene Pitney 222. The "Lovin Spoonful: 5/10 For new additions (NOT New Edition) to Level 5, I nominate Aerosmith, and either Aretha Franklin or Michael Jackson. The impressions I quit listening to the "Classic Rock" stuff back in my senior year of high school. 7. It would only make sense, since the next 4 are not perfect multiples of 12 anymore. Pei, also designed the most famous modern pyramid, the controversial 1988 addition to the Louvre., 3. Lavern Baker: 6/10 211. 198. Meanest: Ike Turner! Prince John Lee Hooker: 8/10 2)The Ramones-They need to be demoted. Lennon had one brilliant record (his first real solo record) and one decent one (the overrated 'Imagine'), and then some good songs sprinkled amidst a lot of filler and crap. Kevin McHale, 40. 1. Black Sabbath Sex Pistols A great scorer, but I'm not sure he was ever a good enough all-around player to be the best player on a champ despite that one year with the Nuggets. 118. He was (and still is) well-regarded by just about everyone regardless of genre. Journey: Influenced Bon Jovi. Brenda Lee: 6/10 You could make the case for Curry based on his ring total and unanimous MVP, I guess, but when KD came to town it was pretty clear that he was their best player. As far as the 2013 inductees are concerned and their tier placement is concerned: Todd Rundgren-Level 1 Demote. " Ritchie Valens: 7/10 Level 3 Did they have transcendent songs and albums or memorable moments? Though if Davis and Simon couldn't be Level 2 I don't see Parton sadly. Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers: 9/10 "I Like It Like That" (Miracles song)- Bobby Vee, Mitch Ryder & the Detroit Wheels. 34. Stevie Wonder 2. There's no way he's a bigger deal than Cream, The Band, The Doors, Black Sabbath, The Police, Jerry Lee Lewis, CSN, Metallica or Aerosmith. I thought they were dull and uninteresting musically, and they couldn't keep my attention long enough to listen to the lyrics. or the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation. 2. 42. Adande. 91. -Loudest? Anyways, hope you browsed through. MORE PROOF !!! Her solo career wasn't any more impactful than any of the other artists on Level 1. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Please answer the best you can. Favorites: The Beatles, Elton John, Queen, CSN, Linda Ronstadt, Cat Stevens, The Beach Boys, Ruth Brown, Joni Mitchell. 2005 Musical understanding cannot be static. That's who he is. If not them, then Hendrix, probably. Posted by John R.C on Wednesday, 05/12/2021 @ 23:17pm. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Miracles_discography Finished season 1 of it, its not over. That's almost obscene! I agree The Miracles are definitely a Level-4 act and agree with every word of your post. The Band Posted by Cheesecrop on Friday, 03.8.13 @ 15:51pm Talking Heads MC5 (Level 1) Yes I think that eventually Rush will be recognized, in the future, as a 5th tier band. "Come On Do The Jerk" The Righteous Brothers [64], The T-Bones Enigmaticus, I agree with you on moving Rush and The Moody Blues up a legion on two up. 193. ***. Booker T & The M.G's: 8/10 Taking risks? Posted by Shrek on Monday, 01/7/2019 @ 13:23pm. Prince, The Beatles, James Brown, Public Enemy, Marvin Gaye, The Temptations, The Rolling Stones, Beastie Boys, Louis Jordan, Michael Jackson, Little Richard, Sly & the Family Stone, Frank Zappa, Stevie Wonder, Parliament-Funkadelic, Joni Mitchell, Bob Dylan, Buddy Holly, The Miracles, The Beach Boys, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, Booker T. & the MGs, Otis Redding, Sam Cooke, Carole King, Run-DMC, Chuck Berry, David Bowie, The Drifters, Fats Domino, Miles Davis, The Velvet Underground and Nirvana. 92. Public Enemy (Level 4) Any content deemed inappropriate or offensive may be edited and/or deleted. Over the past two-three years, I've become heavily enamored with blues, jazz, bluegrass, country/western, and even old Tin Pan Alley/classic standards. He could've won the 2011 MVP. [1] They also have the distinction of having more songs inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame than any other Motown group." 63. The Zombies Jeff Beck: 7/10 I assumed you meant the bottom, but I don't wanna put words in your mouth. Queen and Black Sabbath, by far. "Love Machine" Wham!, Thelma Houston Chicago: 6/10 Madonna: 10/10 -Use 5 levels in your pyramid John Mellencamp LEVEL FOUR ? Nine Inch Nails 5. There needs to be slightly more room in the 5 space, cause Bowie is 100% a 5. "Mickey's Monkey" Mother's Finest, Martha and the Vandellas, The Supremes, The Hollies, The Young Rascals, John Mellencamp, Lou Christie, Cannibal & the Headhunters, The C.A.Quintet, The Defenders, Chris Catena, The Sugar Beats, The Mac Truque. Janet Jackson 9. 1994 All I ask is that you don't put Bon Jovi or Journey in last place. -Most unworthy? Roger Daltrey is involved with the Teenage Cancer Trust. I might as well jump in on this poll: In the since this pyramid was first devised the lower levels have been filled with new inductees and they are certainly not multiples of 12 anymore. "Influence" is not really a matter of opinion. Is Harden the NBAs best scorer since Michael Jordan? Neil Diamond: 7/10 6. As much as I like SRV as a guitarist, his credentials as a performer (body of work) isn't up to many on the 2nd level. The "most civilized" question is mostly on how the artist acts in society or performances. Lynyrd Skynyrd The DC5: 5/10 Most influential besides The Beatles, Elvis Presley, and Chuck Berry? Michael Jackson 1989 The Soul Stirrers Chris Paul [from Level 1, below Carter]. R.E.M: 10/10 Looking at the bottom rung of artists, some of their followers are in the hall (Allmusic). I can narrow it down to two; Bob Dylan (every singer-songwriter since) and Jimi Hendrix (every hard rock guitarist since). The Mavs had Dirk, a semi-washed Kidd, Tyson Chandler, two diminutive scorers and 80% of Shawn Marion. Alex English. I too personally dislike thier music except "Express Yourself" and I just don't understand why so meny praise them when all they did was steer rap down a more gangester and racist path. -Led Zeppelin, Bob Dylan, the Rolling Stones, James Brown, Aretha Franklin 4. "Looks like this has been updated. 5/10 = Average/Borderline They at least had a beat and memorable songs. 4. I would definitely say Bruce Springsteen, Aretha Franklin, and David Bowie should, maybe with Pink Floyd and Neil Young right behind sometime in the near future. Electric Light Orchestra - 1 And how the hell could OKC ever trade James Harden after Game 5? Bill Haley (and His Comets) Jackson Browne: 7/10 Lionel Richie (Level 1) Nine Inch Nails-2 KISS Albert King Ike & Tina Turner: 9/10 Is Curry already the greatest shooter of all time? -Philip My hatred of him is well documented, but I objectively can't see him as anything more than a lower-tier Bob Dylan. My favorite inductees: Elton John, Billy Joel, Rush, Sam Cooke, Buddy Holly & The Crickets, Chuck Berry, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Who, The Eagles, Crosby, Stills, & Nash, Neil Young, Creedence Clearwater Revival, The Doors and several others. Most unworthy: For me, Percy Sledge, Laura Nyro, and Del Shannon stand out. Simon and Garfunkel U2 Ray Allen [up from Level 1, below McAdoo]. Good pyramid. From what I can gather, they were celebrated because they never quite made it, and because, as is wont to happen, their creative limitations were reinterpreted as a profound artistic statement. Posted by Mike on Tuesday, 11/29/2016 @ 05:08am, Pearl Jam - level 3 Posted by John R.C. KISS Over 10 years ago, ESPN's Bill Simmons 1 introduced the world to the concept of a Baseball Hall of Fame pyramid, as a way to provide relative importance to the inductees. Beat induction year: 1986, 1988, 1994, 2014, Posted by PopeCharming on Monday, 04/21/2014 @ 23:30pm, Posted by coletrain on Wednesday, 04/30/2014 @ 08:31am, The Pyramid has been updated with this year's inductees. REM and Tom Petty do, and they are two more acts Radiohead should not be ranked higher than. Nate Thurmond, 51. Please also read our Privacy Notice and Terms of Use, which became effective December 20, 2019. Most mean inductee? They were the forefathers of "progressive rock," after all. Posted by Jordan Einstein on Tuesday, 04/19/2022 @ 14:18pm, 2022 Nominees: Move Fleetwood Mac to 4. "Give Me Just Another Day" Young Jeezy (as the basis for his song, "Mr 17.5"), Schoolboy Q, Wade Waters, Christina Milian, Rick Ross, Marco Polo feat. Lloyd Price: 4/10 Chicago: Level 2 Favorite Hip-Hop inductee? ELO, Joan Baez, Yes, Tupac Shakur, Journey, Pearl Jam, Bon Jovi, Dire Straits, Sister Rosetta Thorpe, The Cars, Nina Simone, Moody Blues. Donna Summer: 8/10 Biggest botch NWA pulls a 2 and everyone else a 1. Is Curry STILL underrated? Most civilized: One that was added this year, Peter Gabriel. The Velvet Underground . Jackson Browne: 7/10 Naming your daughter after a country and picking a fan's nose are the actions of a classic whackjob. 1. Lincoln A Fish Called Wanda Cream The Bee Gees: 9/10 I'd buy front row seats for a weird off between Prince and Dr. John. 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Posted by Mark on Wednesday, 05/8/2019 @ 17:32pm. Sure, they influenced Green Day and some others. Sam Cooke: 10/10 Most mean inductee? 208. Van Halen: 9/10 You could even include acts who broke significant individual records (though, personally, I say no). Favorite induction year? Kevin Johnson, 106. nine inch nails - 2 or 3 Nope! 9/10 = All Time Greats Most of them look like 1s or 2s. Bob Cousy, 23. Most snubbed before finally inducted: Hall and Oates. He is quite vital (i don't think anyone can claim to be the best selling artist in 2 different decades). The 2011 Finals might be the single most impressive accomplishment by a NBA player in my lifetime. Star in 1972, The Jackson Five. -"But since I'm in the neighborhood, an easy one: The Ramones. They are certainly not on the level of Bowie, Springsteen, Aretha, or Nirvana, even Michael. 3. 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